In hour two, we dive into the Big Story: the news that Pete Hegseth accidentally sent intel about an upcoming military strike, via text, to the editor of the Atlantic (!). We hear from several folks about the fallout and consequences of this utter breach of security. We check in with our WMDX meteorologist Brittney Merlot for a look at the weather (and the snowman she made yesterday!) before hearing one more clip, from Pete Buttigieg, telling his own story of working with military intelligence – and the respect it deserves. Later, we welcome on attorney and host of Amicus: A Law Review Jim Santelle, to discuss the Alien Enemies act court case being heard right now – in response to the Trump administration illegally detaining immigrants during “peacetime.” They also get his take on the Hegseth text message debacle, and wrap up with his explanation and opinion on the potential need for a constitutional amendment, or even a convention.

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